Electric hypercars are of absolutely no interest to me from the perspective of someone that enjoys driving. Running 8s on the street in near silence? Not my idea of a good time. Tracking it? $2mm gets you a real race car that will be faster and manufacturer support.

$2,000,000 vs. $200,000

Your point applies more broadly to all electric cars not just electric hypercars.

At the rate that battery technology is improving, we will soon reach a point where no internal combustion engines could compete.

But as you point out there is more to "driving" than performance, there is also passion. To some its rowing their own gears, to others its the sound of the engine/exhaust that stirs them up.

Originally Posted by Bowser330

At the rate that battery technology is improving, we will soon reach a point where no internal combustion engines could compete.

It's crazy that in 10-20 years the average CUV will probably leave a current Mustang GT for dead from a stop light. But only one of them will be enjoying a glorious 5.0 V8 revving to 7k+ RPM...

Originally Posted by Bowser330

At the rate that battery technology is improving, we will soon reach a point where no internal combustion engines could compete.

At least for short bursts from a stop but performance boating and off-road probably has nothing to fear for a long, long time.

Originally Posted by Sticky

At least for short bursts from a stop but performance boating and off-road probably has nothing to fear for a long, long time.

Well electrification is also available for performance boats and off-road vehicles right now, its just a matter of time and I do not agree it will be a long long time. It will be sooner than you think.

Originally Posted by ND75R

It's crazy that in 10-20 years the average CUV will probably leave a current Mustang GT for dead from a stop light. But only one of them will be enjoying a glorious 5.0 V8 revving to 7k+ RPM...

It is crazy that CUVs are ALREADY quick enough to leave a Mustang GT on the street from a dead stop or slow roll...Tesla, Kia/Hyundai, Volvo, Ford, etc.

To be fair you said "the average CUV" I assume meaning not the higher end models but the lower-mid tier models, but I don't think it will take even 10yrs to change that.

...enjoying a glorious flat 6 screaming at 9,000rpm, that's what gets me stirred up.

This car could run 6's and I probably still wouldn't click the link to watch the video. As everyone else says, there is just no excitement or theatrics to get me excited with an electric vehcile. However, a lot of new ICE cars that are hitting 8s and 9s with DCT, very basic mods, launch control, etc have become so uneventful that they don't do much for me either. IROZ posted a video a few days ago of their 900hp sport quattro that was laggy as hell, needed time to spool in every gear, had a screaming open wastegate and so on... that is one of very few videos I've watched more than once in quite some time.

Originally Posted by Bowser330

Well electrification is also available for performance boats and off-road vehicles right now, its just a matter of time and I do not agree it will be a long long time. It will be sooner than you think.

I just don't see it. How the hell are you going to charge your jet ski on the way to Catalina?

Performance boating is just not going to go electric anytime soon.

Originally Posted by Bowser330

It is crazy that CUVs are ALREADY quick enough to leave a Mustang GT on the street from a dead stop or slow roll...Tesla, Kia/Hyundai, Volvo, Ford, etc.

To be fair you said "the average CUV" I assume meaning not the higher end models but the lower-mid tier models, but I don't think it will take even 10yrs to change that.

...enjoying a glorious flat 6 screaming at 9,000rpm, that's what gets me stirred up.

We'll see more consumer products go electric while enthusiast products will be old school to appeal to the senses and experience.

Kind of like complicated mechanical watches compared to smart watches. Not the best example but you get the point.

Originally Posted by Sticky

We'll see more consumer products go electric while enthusiast products will be old school to appeal to the senses and experience.

Kind of like complicated mechanical watches compared to smart watches. Not the best example but you get the point.

The watch analogy is a great example.

An complicated mechanical watch serves no real purpose in the modern world other than to make the wearer happy and those who cannot obtain one envious.

Getting back on track, since Porsche owns a 24% stake in Rimac and has Rimac developed technology in the Taycan, I think both companies chose to release this for some specific reason.

I do not really consider this "beating up", but rather showcasing what the future holds in terms of technical advances.

It is much more that just making the power and torque. That is the easy part, anyone can do it.

It is about managing the power and torque right to the limits of the coefficient of friction between the road surface and the tire tread.

To achieve a 8 send QM pass on the street, there is an incredible amount to traction needed.

Almost my Audi but way way more expensive. Less Maintanance I’ll give it that

Originally Posted by F16HTON

It is much more that just making the power and torque. That is the easy part, anyone can do it.

It is about managing the power and torque right to the limits of the coefficient of friction between the road surface and the tire tread.

While true, that doesn't seem to be giving any manufacturers of high performance electric cars any trouble. If anything it seems far easier to set up ESC/TC/launch control for an EV compared to ICE, because you can nearly instantly (and extremely precisely) vary the torque output at each wheel individually, as compared to say TC on an ICE vehicle closing the throttle slightly to decrease output by an estimated amount, and all the time spent in between the TC/ESC wanting less torque, and being able to reduce torque output. The amount of time between slip detection and correction of that slip on an EV will be significantly less than with ICE as far as I can tell.

Originally Posted by fairbird

Almost my Audi but way way more expensive. Less Maintanance I’ll give it that

You make an awesome point here.

We literally have a member posting with an RS3 that has nothing to fear from this $2 million 'electric hypercar.'

That says plenty right there.

The new Lucid Air (when/if it comes out) will run almost comparable times for a lot less money.

Originally Posted by stosh1

The new Lucid Air (when/if it comes out) will run almost comparable times for a lot less money

That's a very good point.

I wouldn't even want this Rimac. Give me a Mclaren and keep the change.

Originally Posted by Sticky

That's a very good point.

I wouldn't even want this Rimac. Give me a Mclaren and keep the change.

Agreed, give me the i.c.e. i.c.e. baby.

Originally Posted by subaru335i

Oh yeah EV traction control is 1000x easier than ICE.
I do controls for my job and the algorithms for EV traction control are extremely simple.
Especially when you have the high end EV's with individual motors on each wheel (or at least each rear wheel). Then you don't have to worry about any sort of mechanical limited slip differential or anything, just pure easy torque vectoring.
There is an order of magnitude lower response time in controlling the electric motor torque vs physically moving the throttle to choke airflow, or retarding timing, and then fueling loops having to compensate etc on an ICE.

I'm glad someone that actually knows what they're talking about can confirm my theory, nice to not just be talking out of my ass for once

Originally Posted by subaru335i

Oh yeah EV traction control is 1000x easier than ICE.
I do controls for my job and the algorithms for EV traction control are extremely simple.
Especially when you have the high end EV's with individual motors on each wheel (or at least each rear wheel). Then you don't have to worry about any sort of mechanical limited slip differential or anything, just pure easy torque vectoring.
There is an order of magnitude lower response time in controlling the electric motor torque vs physically moving the throttle to choke airflow, or retarding timing, and then fueling loops having to compensate etc on an ICE.

interesting, thanks

Originally Posted by stosh1

The new Lucid Air (when/if it comes out) will run almost comparable times for a lot less money.

https://youtu.be/p4QyVnsklSk

Or Tesla Model S Plaid+

0-60 less than 1.9 sec
250mph top speed
1/4 mile less than 9 sec